Recently I was part of a large tele-summit for families where I gave a one hour class highlighting many of the parenting principles I teach. Here is a link to the free companion cards I discussed on the call. http://teachingselfgovernment.com/form/free-companion-implementation-cards
During this summit I had many many questions sent to me and didn’t have time on the call to answer them all, so I am going to answer one of those questions today.
Question:
“I have a daughter who frequently rages and manipulates. She is out of control almost as often as she is in control. When I talk to her about her behaviors she doesn’t listen. She looks away and tries to manipulate our emotions. We tell her that her behaviors are bad and that she needs to be better so that our lives aren’t so full of negative feelings, but she just doesn’t get it. What are we doing wrong?”
I would need more information to tell you exactly how I would handle the raging and manipulating. Is she just lying, or is she stealing, tattling, putting one parent against the other, or making excuses? What does her rage look like? Does she scream, pout, whine, have an attitude, or get violent? We will need to discuss that more another time. However, right now I can tell you some tips for getting your child to listen to you when you are discussing a behavior problem or a change that needs to be made.
To do this I am going to make up a scenario. Let’s say my child has gone out of instructional control for not accepting a consequence and we are now talking about what went wrong and why it was wrong so that this kind of behavior won’t happen again. There are two main ways parents handle this kind of situation.
Situation One: The Wrong Way!
The most common way looks like this: “Bonnie have you decided to calm down? Good, because you were really wasting a lot of my time. I have to take all this time with you to talk about your behaviors and don’t get anything else done. Now dinner will be late because of you. Why do you always do this?”
Bonnie says, “I don’t know.” and looks away.
Mom says, “Yes you do. Look at me when I’m talking to you…that’s better.
Bonnie turns her head completely away from Mom, but Mom keeps talking. “You are being so disrespectful. You aren’t even thinking about anyone else in the whole family. Don’t you even feel bad about this?…Well.”
Bonnie says nothing.
Mom says, “You obviously don’t really care about changing…..etc.”
Situation Two: Effective Communication
This second type of communication is much more rare, but a lot more effective.
“Bonnie, you look like you are feeling more calm and are ready to talk. Is that right?”
Bonnie says, “Yes” and looks away.
Mom says, “Bonnie, because you are calm I will be able to listen to anything you have to say. However, you are not looking at me right now. This action tells me that you don’t want to talk to me and that maybe you are not calm. If you are calm and want to be in control now, you need to look at me. Please turn your head toward me.”
Bonnie turns her head toward mom but still keeps her body pointed away from mom.
Mom says, “Thank you for looking at me Bonnie, now I can see that you are ready to follow instructions which will make our conversation much shorter. A while ago you didn’t accept your consequence for going out of control. (At this point review the steps to accepting a consequence, which can be found on the Teaching Self-Government implementation cards and in the book Parenting A House United.) Accepting that one consequence would have only taken a few minutes of your time. How long has it taken to go out of control and have this talk?”
Bonnie says, “I don’t know. Longer?”
“You have been upset about the consequence for an hour now. Where you happy during this last hour?”
“No.”
“Do you remember how to disagree appropriately?” (This skill is also on the implementation cards and in the book.)
“Yes.”
“If you would have chosen to disagree appropriately with me instead of get angry I would have listened and maybe even changed my mind on the consequence. Then you would have chosen to be happy. You can always disagree appropriately.” Says Mom.
Bonnie says, “Can I disagree appropriately now?”
“Yes, of course.” says Mom.
Seven Tips For Conversing With A Reluctant Youth
Tips:
- Focus on how the actions effect the child, not on how they effect you
- Keep your questions short and to the point (no lectures)
- Bring the conversation back to the skill which they had a hard time with (in the case above it would be the skill set for accepting a consequence.)
- Look them in the eyes (you need to connect with them to keep everyone calm and focused on the conversation.)
- Describe what is happening and what it teaches you about parenting them more effectively. (or what the action communicates to you.) Keep focused on the point; which is to understand the situation and what motivates the person to change and learn.
- Seek to Understand (Really care about what they are trying to tell you with their actions while still being firm and communicating deliberately.)
- Give them a skill they can use to problem solve similar situations in the future. Practice the new skill.
Really Important Note:
If the youth will not stay calm in the discussion or will not look at you when you are talking then you should not continue to try to have the discussion. The child is not ready. They need to be able to follow basic instructions like looking at you and be able to talk calmly and openly back to you.
I know for some youth this is very difficult, but they can learn in time. Ask simple questions and give multiple choice questions if they are not comfortable talking about their behaviors and emotions in order to get them going. Make sure they feel you are a safe person to talk to. Don’t judge or laugh at them. Help them analyze and make a plan for the future so that they don’t have to go through that experience again.
If the child starts raging again or has signs of an attitude problem describe their body language and then pre-teach them about what they are supposed to do to fix the situation. If they can’t respect you enough to comply then tell them you can’t talk with them about it until they are calm. Never talk to a child when you or they are not calm. It does no good.
For Your Free Copy Of The Teaching Self-Government Companion Cards go to http://teachingselfgovernment.com/form/free-companion-implementation-cards
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Nicholeen,
I have a child that sounds like the example you describe.
Today in church, he decided to break the rules and left sacrament meeting without asking. I came out and asked him to return and ask first.
Well, from there, he began to escalate things until he was getting in more and more trouble. He took himself from essentially no punishment to multiple time outs.
I actually followed your ‘good example’ pretty well. I focused in on how his actions had negatively effected him. All he really had to do was come with me and then he could go back. Now he was on timeout instead. He could have avoided all punishments and instead got increasingly severe ones.
But I was in a situation with a time limit. Sacrament meeting was going to get out and I would lose my room I had him in.
What would you be your advice in a situation like that? If I had all the time in the world, I probably could have left him on time out until he was ready to talk. But this is rarely the case.
Would it be better to try to not talk with him until later at home even though there will be very little correlation between the bad behavior and the discussion?
And what about the fact that he pretty much is never really ready to discuss such incidents? I would probably fail to get him to look at him pretty much ever. He’s never in a teachable mood as far as I can tell.
How can I help him learn to want to discuss how he can improve his own life?
Bruce, when my daughter acts out and a room is not available, we head to the car.
That’s what he wants. 🙂
Bruce, How old is he? Sorry for the late reply. For some reason I am picturing a seven year old. I have a few thoughts without seeing the behavior myself.
1. Pre-teach what the postive and negative consequences will be before you go to church, and exactly how you will handle things. Then follow through. This will decrease anxiety and power struggling. It should also increase success.
2. When you go talk to describe what is happening instead of reacting to his mood or defiance.
3. Before you address the subject, be calm and pre-teach how the conversation and consequences will go if chosen. The calm planner always has the upper hand.
4. Never respond to pouting or an arguement with anything but instruction, or description.
5. Learn those four basic skills on the cards I mention above and teach them to him. http://teachingselfgovernment.com/form/free-companion-implementation-cards
6. Buy my book. It will give you a lot more help. http://teachingselfgovernment.com/catalog/products-0
7. Probably the best way to have success is to have him role play the right way quite a few times with some good praise before it happens again.
(Oh, by the way. Talking after church is okay if it means you are more calm and can follow through with a consequence better. Ideally, you do it immediately and fix it, but if you need a minute to calm down. Do so.
These are a few thoughts. If I could see him myself, I could give you more. God Bless.
It is true that you should never complain about the child right in front of her/him or to his/her face!